AccessTechSession1-2020NFBPAConvention We are now doing a jaws training session on the latest features in jaws 2021. It is currently in a beta state where people can download that and install it. So just 2021 the beta that came out in November. So I'm demonstrating the voice input commands that you can do for Jaws, you actually say, Sharky, Sharky, speak Faster, faster. And so you hear the upper and the higher tone, and then you hear a lower tone after it's done listening to. So you can jump right to the setting center. They are adding more settings all the time to control different things. I think in addition to speech rate, there are a number of things I'm trying to remember what most important ones where you can actually jump if jump right to the command search, which one of the reasons for doing the voice input is people often forget what the keystroke is to do a particular action. So you can say Sharky, command search. Search for jaws commands dialog, search for colon edit search for colon edits, press Enter for forms mode. And let's see if we do and they're not allowed no selectable Aria controls combo. That's interesting. I started to type in it didn't find it wrapping the top search for colon edit. Okay, it's kind of like a web page. Nice. So I have manuals forms mode and manual mode. So I hit space to turn on forms mode, do you see results, punctuation and punctuation, spelling, you see, they kind of completed as I went along. So I typed P and C. And if I Down Arrow, I think it should get to edit punctuation settings. Plus to add in level three. So I tabbed to get to the search results. And one of the new features is right here that I'm showing is that thing now added a new setting so that you can talk or you can switch between the punctuation modes more easily. You used to have to hold insert and hit V for quick settings and then type in punctuation go down and hit space to toggle through the different options. But now they have a new keystroke, I'm going to insert up arrow to read the current line language that didn't work. I'll tab and Shift Tab back punctuation settings. Let's get to it in level three, insert plus shift plus two. So if you remember altern keyboard help mode on with insert the number one people are held on. Usually two, if you hold insert two jagi plus two changes the type technical setting, it changes the typing echo. But now if you add the shift along with it, shift plus log key plus to set punctuation level for the actor's voice profile. So now what you can do, then I'm going to turn keyboard mode off with insert one again for hilltop. So you can actually do insert and shift and then I'll hit to a few times to toggle through the settings all not sub most. I usually prefer most. And so that's a quick way to change between punctuation. Personally, I do software programming, so it very much helps to hear all punctuation when you're in those programs. But then when typing or reading a Word document or a web page, it's much more helpful to have it set to some or most because you don't necessarily want to hear everything. Okay, so let me see if the Sharky thing can tell me more so Sharky. Sharky. What can you do? Once you pick a topic and present around it, use the f6 key to move to read the information window jaws 2021 panel contents page three viewpoints assistant book open one. Okay, so when I asked it what it could do, it brought me to the jaws training topics. For the new voice input feature, I'm actually going to slow speed down the speed down I think it went up lower Slower, slower, slower as I went through that. So if you don't remember to change the speech rate, up or down, you hold the Ctrl windows alt to the three keys usually to the left of the spacebar and then hit page down to reduce speed page up to increase speed. So I did that a few times. So I'm going to hit f6 as it said to go to the text f6 page has eight headings and two links voice assistant heading level one voice assistant the voice assistant provides a way to interact with jaws and Windows 10 using Speech Input supported languages include English, Dutch, German, Spanish, and French ask it to be loaded with various jobs features using natural speech. This means that the same jobs action can be performed by more than one similar phrase instead of a single predefined voice command for instance. The launch settings center you could say, quote settings center quote or quote change settings. Well, unlike keyboard shortcuts, which can be hard to remember, natural voice commands are an easier way to interact with the jaws software. Using voice input to control jaws can also benefit users with certain conditions which prevent them from using the keyboard effectively. The jaws voice assistant uses your computer's internal microphone or you can talk to it using an external microphone or headset that tells a voice assistant to begin listening for a specific command. There are three options calling list of two items bullet press the key combination and search plus alt plus spacebar bullet speaker specific weight word which alerts the software to begin listening for a voice command. Similar to using an Alexa or Google Home device the wait word for jaws is quote Sharky, quotes the plus word followed by a specific jobs command such as quote Sharky listing links with the list and note colons await word is not available if you are using a Bluetooth microphone. In this case, you must use the keystroke before speaking the voice command list of line items bullet from the jaws main window press plus you open the YouTube Please let me jump ahead just to see if it has a list of commands voice commands heading level two. The following tables provides voice commands used to perform specific jaws actions in many cases, the voice assistant supports additional voice commands to perform the same action to support a more natural speech pattern. For instance, saying neither quote change settings quote or quote open setting center quote opens the jaws setting center remember there's a quote Sharky heading level three general voice command summary call and voice commands table we assume. Okay, so here's the table that displays a voice assistant help topic help. So you can ask it for help. displays a window list dialog box window list short voice command window list command search keyboard manager dictionary manager settings speak faster speak slower said okay, it's just going through a bunch of things. So yeah, you can basically any setting that you can get to any of the top level settings at least it doesn't have all of them but they're adding it adding more settings all the time. They check 115 Okay, wait 115 115 seems like we have more time. Yeah. Okay, so let me jump down to see if there's other headings of topics I didn't cover for this voice voice commands for webpages heading level three, right. So you can actually use this to do a bunch of web. Searching and navigating like I mentioned before, you can ask it for a list of links, things that are mapped to the Insert f7 f5. Those kind of commands, some are called voice commands for item listed words heading level three for item lists and word voice commands for navigation and words heading level three, navigation or voice commands for general outlook navigation, heading level three. Okay, interesting outlook, let me see some natural voice command, short voice command, go to the calendar view calendar. Okay, so if you want to go to the calendar view, you can say calendar, go to the messages, view messages, go to the contacts, view contacts, those are settings that you can or Windows you can normally get to by holding down CTRL and pressing one for the mail two for the calendar three for contacts. So you can do that directly. Go to the tasks, new tasks, go to the notes view notes table then, okay, and these are basically just the different switching between the panes and recall invoice heading level three voice commands for navigating outlook messages. Okay, wrapping that up. Okay, so that was all the lists they have there. So yes, there's different things you can do inside messages and on the web page. A lot of really cool things. I'll go over the instead of the wake word, especially if you're using a USB audio input, which for the the wake word, just the wake word, it needs to be listening all the time, but it doesn't actually do that with USB audio because the audio is typically not streaming into the computer the entire time. So that's why they have a keystroke that will also turn the voice assistant on so that's insert plus alt and spacebar. Sharkey is no longer listening. Okay, so I held it down and then Sharky is listening. What time is it? Oh, Sharkey is no longer listening. That's interesting. What time is it? Shark he is no longer listening. Yeah, when you use the I don't think you're supposed to use the word shark yet. Oh, You need to but maybe I'll try it. Sharky. What time is it? Sharky is listening. What time is it? So? Sharky, what time is it? Oh 1:18pm Well, yeah, that time I didn't use the keystroke. So maybe it doesn't work unless you're using a USB microphone. So um, yeah, maybe it's not that you can use either one. For some reason when I held down those keystrokes, it seemed to be confusing it rather than just listening. So. So the way I have it now it just listens for the keyword. With fusion. You can actually also change magnification level, you can change the color. Actually, let me bring that up. Windows D folder, view fusion 2019 fusion 2020 fusion 2021. Enter. Apparently I have three versions on this computer. It's just loading up. still loading. Okay, sorry, since it uses a different voice profile may slow this down. Are we gonna say 150 501? niddm? Oh, yeah, no. Okay. I thought you were saying that my clock was right. So let's see if if now the keyword for this one works zoomy zoomy. change color. Color enhancements disabled. So turn the color enhancements off zoomy set magnification to 303. So they're just zoomed out to magnification? level three. zoomy zoomy. Zoom in. Oh, 3.5. Okay, so it moved up by a half increment, which is pretty cool. It seems What else can we do? It can turn different speech things on and off. It can because fusion has the jaws in the magnification built into it. So I believe you can do everything that you can do for the jaws voice command. You can also do through the fusion voice commands plus the other ones that are related to the magnification. Okay, one of the other main things I'll scoot move on to the next is that they've vastly improved the picture smart. Which if you don't know in 20, jaws 2020 I believe they added pictures smart, which you can tell it a picture, give it a picture. And it can send it up to Google and Microsoft and turn those places and convert it so that it will describe what the picture is. I wonder what should I use as an example? I don't think I have anything on this computer. We go to the internet and windows are all windows all the time information. Oh w also stuck That's weird. W windows D folder die Wikipedia short clever. Okay, I'm gonna go to Wikipedia. So slower about Wikipedia. Let's see what should we search for Eiffel Tower in the top surgery space. Er, our else Eiffel Tower national Wikipedia I got in description Eiffel Tower heading level one. So in Google actually in Google Chrome, it actually does some of this picture description stuff already. And in level one dipole in level one getting description. Right for Wikimedia Commons dot JPG link graphic. So here I hit G to jump by graphic. So I'm now on excuse me on a on a graphic. It gives the name of it it says where it's from, like we make Wikipedia. So let's bring up the jaws picture smart is a layered keystroke. So if you're not familiar with those, that means you hit insert and space together and you hear a little pop, please. And then you hit letter P for picture smart p picture smart. And in case I don't remember the next command I'm going to do question mark all right. Wikimedia Commons dot JPG link graphics heading level one of the following commands are available into picture smart layer. So any of the layered keystrokes, you can use the question mark, if you don't know what your next key is supposed to be, even if you just press insert space and then question mark, it'll give you the list of the first level layered keystrokes and then I already knew I wanted to hit p for picture smart. And then it brought up the, the viewer, the jaws viewer, with other lists of things I can do now for picture smart specific, acquire and describe an image from a scanner or read them scientific cameras, such as using the LED Ray. So if I had a pearl, which I don't or scanner, if you after doing insert space, and then P, if you hit a you can acquire a picture and it'll describe it from Windows Explorer, you can describe any image file using the letter F. If you hit F while you're on a graphics related file in Windows Explorer, it'll then convert it I think from a computer screen or application you can destroy the control with a legacy C is for a control I also believe that's for the image on the clipboard can be described using the letter B B for clipboard an image can be described by saving it as a quote pictures Mark quote directory and your users will get four results from all available services add to the shift key to any of the above keystrokes to get four is that right okay, so that's it so C is what I want escape link graphic. So Amman link graphic to rival Wikimedia Commons. So I'm not a graphic link so I'm going to do the insert space space and then PD pictures on see pictures marked as in progress. So it sounds like a corrupt new caption is a large Clock Tower in the background with Eiffel Tower in the background. And in level two caption so I'm back in the in the viewer now so these are results that you can up arrow and down arrow through so heading level two caption there's a large Clock Tower in the background with Eiffel Tower in the background. And in level three of these tags describes the photo outdoor text and in level three this tag probably describes the photo sky and in level three this tag lately describes the photo tower link more results link more results okay so that wasn't a very comprehensive list because it was just a tower but you can do more results and I'm going to click around Enter Enter Eiffel Tower national Wikipedia attached Google Chrome link graphic rival Wikimedia Commons dot JPG pictures martyrs in progress pictures merge results heading level two caption is a large Clock Tower in the background with Eiffel Tower in the background. And in level four this logo fo this logo possibly appears into the photo so by clicking the more information that sent it to different services different picture Analysis Services at any level authorities landmark positively appears into the photo Eiffel Tower. Ah, see so somebody out there one of the services said Oh, that's a picture of the Eiffel Tower. And in level four this text appears. So how you can use this as if you're on Facebook, for instance, using jaws and somebody posted a picture and says hey, we're on vacation and you really don't know where they are. You can try this feature and it might say oh they're on a beach they're at the Washington Monument they're at the Eiffel Tower and by reading through this information you'll learn more about what's in the picture Eiffel Tower not at level four this object probably appears into the photo building heading level three of these acts describe the photo landmark monument outdoor text tower and in level three of these tags probably describe the photo architecture National Historic Landmark sky and in level three of these tags positively describe the photo build inspired steeple tourism tourist attraction so as you can tell how they orient this information is the most likely results or near the top and then they say this one might possibly do it and these sort of might the the accuracy of the descriptions kind of falls down as you go further down buildings fires buildings buildings. Okay, so that's the end of that picture escape Eiffel Tower let's see what we should come across next I'm just gonna hit G to go between different pictures about the sound link graphic file called Lumia 909 file Colin Rachel dogs graduate panorama of Paris from the rifle link graduate and Rambo of Paris and it's up Oh a pamorah panoramic of Paris flat graphic. Okay, so there's a flag graphic so let's see if we can figure out what flag This is. So I'll do insert space case. P d, picture smart and then C for supposed to be controller. If you're smart is in progress. Link more results. They put me at the bottom so I'm going to do Ctrl home link more results. Link more result link more result Oh interesting. It didn't find anything. So let's hit the more results our natural Wikipedia attached Google Chrome flat graphic pictures smart is in progress picture smart results heading heading level for this text appears into the photo percent 3d. Heading level three. This tag describes the photo green and in level three of these tags probably describe the photo line Next, in level three, these tags positively describe the photo plot pattern rectangles where font and font. Okay, so it was not able to tell me which flag that was. That's interesting. escape them. It's a green flag list of eight items linked Eiffel Tower in particular. My guess is probably the French flag, but I'm not quite sure. Let's see. So 120 ap picture smart has a lot of new features and so does the convenient OCR. Let's see where would I have a PDF file. Let's see where those d c drive at our Derby training there, windows, go to some audio c colon, backslash, enter c colon. Sorry, I'm used to my all my links on my other windows our C colon backslash enter, I'm just navigating here a second box. Enter shell folder not selected amples admit processors 18 to 45. Enter mid process, focus right before joemeek fo enter p one place master mono block dollar 500 is at 1100. These are just locks. And avoid review microphones mentors, sorry, I should have prepared more for at least my other computer but it's less than 80 or 60 or one of 11 enter items under line up with BLS for our wonderful enter shell for manual PDF. Okay, so this is the manual for the microphones that we're using right now. So you can get to the convenient OCR in different ways you can open it up in Adobe and then kick it off but I do most of mine just from the Windows Explorer. So if you bring up the context menu on this which is Shift F 10 on a laptop or the apps key or sorry, the context key normally selected MADI will text comma bl x with that wasn't shift up time. Shift F 10 context menu the pictures marked with jaws D. So there you can actually send the document to picture smart but when it's a manual like this, it really it would also do OCR, but it probably would add a lot of extra stuff convenient OCR to work with fusion BI. So the new feature that they give you is now that you can convert it directly to a Word document. It typically created it in the jaws text viewer. And if you tried to then copy it and put it into a Word document, sometimes the formatting would get messed up, and lenient OCR with fusion. Oh, so the old one is still here convenient OCR with fusion or if you're just running Jaws, it'll say with jaws. So you can actually choose directly whether you want to go from one to the other. If you just use the regular one enter leaving mail show there'll be a link that you can then open it in for Windows message box dialog. OCR failed to start multiple files currently selected okay but oh air escape de la escape. Maddy will be manual text the manual PDF via Lex with ble. Okay, let's try shift. Open speech share open Oh, open with Adobe share pictures can be inconvenient OCR with fusion. Okay, so that's the normal one convenient OCR with fusion. Actually, I'll just convenient OCR to work with fusion. Okay, I'll just show it using menus BLS with BLS items new multi select list box manual PDF BLS with BLS for our doc PDF eight slash 11. Select one. So you'll hear the little clicking noise as it processes it. Maddie will text via Maddie, I'm still in Windows Explorer, so it has an opened window yet for it. If you're doing a small document, it will open up a window and you'll start to get some of the OCR results. But then if you go down, it might say at the bottom OCR in progress, please wait. You do have to have Microsoft Office installed on your computer to be able to use the conversion to word because it uses the features that get installed when you install it. Or when you install the office suite to do the Word docs and word edit. For spaces, you will register one space for spaces were registered. So I'm in the document now and if I do insert t it should show me the title title is your doc doc Smashwords print view. Yep, so it just took the name of the document legendary performance BLS for our wireless microphone system systems a microphone sandersville D Alexa, so it also has English and French microphones Rosina, lambrechts de sistema de Mike in Spanish, it has a couple different languages. So basically, it converted the entire document to a word or the PDF document to a Word file page. Now, page two, so I can use the ctrl page down to go between pages. Next page page. Next page, page four, eight, and left paren. inclusive. Heartbleed naturally occurs right paren nine. Okay. Next, next, next page level one, bullet rat equals runtime less than one hour. So I page down a few times because there are pictures initially in those OCR a little bit better and Word document format, but jumped down. So now there's descriptions of what the lights mean on the mic. Really, it was runtime greater than one hour. So it's in as you see now in normal OCR, you don't necessarily get bulleted lists, but this because it's in Word, you maintain that formatting that was in the original PDF level zero, Page Six, front panel, rear panel, page seven, battery lead, level one, bullet bullet ready level zero. So it actually has a nesting of a, it has a list at level zero is the normal text. And then it had a bulleted list with different color choices. So it's actually pretty cool. I think it actually includes the graphics in here too. Let me see if right now I'm in the regular PC cursor. If I did do insert z, it'll turn the virtual mode on then I can use headings and graphic searches if you're in a word. Sorry, if you are in a webpage, wikis on quick keys. And if I do g there are no graphics in this document. Okay, so it didn't actually create a receipt. It didn't actually create graphics. So the one feature that I would like is if there was a picture in the manual if it created a graphic out of it, but h h h i guess there aren't headings either. Wikis on no more Ellen found ah. Escape. Okay, so that's a new feature of the OSI the what are they called? escape. Convenient OCR, titled is your Duck Duck stack 1:35pm 35. Leaving menus BLS with just a manual table for nonuniform table receiver LCD Ctrl w leaving menus short dot doc Smashwords mode f4. table for non uniform table left margin misspelled. Oh, that's actually one of the things gape zero TV misspelled receiver, jump up to the top of the control home table. h one is one of the going back to those voice assistant commands. If you don't remember what it is to jump by misspellings, you can actually ask it to show you the next misspelled word I think. Let me see if that'll work. Because now I've got fusion on I have to use the other keyword zoomy zoomy show spelling errors. Oh, sorry, I didn't catch that. Okay, I must have said around when it says I didn't catch that it means it could not figure out what I was asking it to do. Sue me. Next misspelled word. Oh, sorry, I didn't catch that. Not remembering what the exact phraseology is to say that zoomy zoomy. Shows grammar errors. Oh, sorry. I didn't catch that. Okay, well, I would have liked to have shown that. But hey, escape. Let me just close those up for Microsoft will learn more link save but don't say but I chose not to save that conversion. Let's see. We want 30 6pm. We have about 20 minutes left. Does anybody have any questions at this point? You should be able to unmute yourself if you have a question. or have any questions. But one thing that I discovered today when having some outlook issues with jaws is that when i when i unloaded jaws and then turn it back on, there was a jealous 2021 update. And that 2021 update actually, in the short period of time that I played with it before coming in here appeared to not only fix some of the issues I was having an outlook but it also made it much more responsive in Excel. I just wanted to share that with you. Right. So thank you. Yeah, they definitely made a lot of bug fixes lately in the 2021 data. They had a number of issues as you mentioned in Outlook, where they were jaws was sometimes reading too much information. are not enough information. So they kind of trim that up, give you choices about whether when you open an outlook message, whether you want it to read the from and the two, or you can, I think the default now is it'll jump right to the text. And it used to have an issue where you would open a message and if you had read it before, or if you had read a message that was earlier in that conversation, it would jump you down to where you were. So you would not notice that there was new information up at the top. So one of the things they just fixed also was, was that it would now start at the top. So if people are interested in doing this, because I think as much feedback as we can give the sparrow the makers of jaws the more information that we can hand to them, the better. Let me just take you quickly to where you can download a dialogue. So I'm going to just go to the I'll take you the more you can get to it through Jaws, but this is just one way to do it. So I'm going to type in the address which is HTTP, colon slash slash fr ie the freedom scientific.com or Folder View list view Wikipedia shortcuts, 65 or 68 Folder View list view Wikipedia shortcuts, 65 or 60 days to read Google Chrome Freedom Scientific and high quality video magnifier. So now I'm on the Freedom Scientific page. I think if you go to the original find jaws find dialog 01 enter, same page link graphics switch to carousels like one there's a carousel where it's showing a little advertisement for it. I'm going to I did a search for jaws to actually search for 2021 sorry, but I'll hit f3 again to go to the next resort, ZoomText and fusion 2021 now available and learn more. So there's a link so the second if you search for 2021 on their main page, the second occurrence will bring you a link enter to the new 2021 beta process. St John's ZoomText and fusion 2021 now available and learn more link jaws ZoomText Jaws, ZoomText and fusion 2021 now available learn more in just a few short months COVID-19 jaws ZoomText Freedom Scientific and national. Okay, so I hit Enter on it again, I'm not sure I went the first time I'm going to jump by headings but pressing h software heading level one and level two software solutions. software for home add in level three Linux software for school that inlanders hitting HR software for business contact us. That's interesting that still didn't jump to a search screen not found escape. Things are never quite as easy as they usually are, as they should be software and data freedoms. So let me just search for j, s, enter. Now john software or magnification software. So just search which I use a lot if you if you're not familiar with that the Insert f3 IN the web browser brings up the search feature you can type in a word and hit enter and it'll jump and then hitting f3. After that will jump you between the results and shift f3 will jump you back by are the results software for home and in level effects. Show me only graphic software, enter. I hit Enter software and maybe this will be a place I can find it. Dog registrants heading level one jobs job access with speech content or navigating with a mouse job navigate laws registered solutions heading level two, heading level three link for home heading level three link for school for business heading. Find the version that is right for you. And in level two jaws single dash user licensed accessibility testing contact us heading level three was narrow grant. It's still not getting me to the where I was wrong. I just workable fine. screen. Okay, okay. Okay, sorry. I'll go back to questions. If anyone needs it. Good. You should be able to find it. I just found it earlier today. My next step would have been gone through downloads, and it's probably there. So there's a November 2020 release of jaws in fusion in ZoomText 2021. So do we have any other questions? Again, I kind of just want to reiterate. I don't think it's in beta anymore. I think they released the full version today. Oh, did they? Yeah. And I think that's why you're not finding the actual beta. form. I think that's what I think that's why you're not finding what you were looking for. Okay. Yeah, that could be I otherwise, I wasn't doing beta. I wasn't beta testing. It literally popped up like an update. like you'd say, oh, in essence a update. Gotcha, then, yeah, that tells me that they actually released it. The same day was the one you just saw it this morning. Surprise. Yeah, exactly. So it's not in beta anymore. If you have an SM Ma, you'll probably be told about it today and given option to install it. interesting how that coordinated with our event today. How fun Do we have any other questions about I'm opening the door to jaws questions in general 2021 2020 questions. You can unmute yourself if you're on the phone by doing star six, or Alt a on a keyboard for the Windows desktop. And there's a button in the lower left hand corner of an iPhone if you're using the zoom iPhone app. Okay, does anybody in the room have any questions? We have some live participants. I think anybody out there. One. Four, okay. Okay, Angelina and her companion. Yes. Fun. Friends. Yes. So any questions about jobs in virtual world or in physical world? Okay, were there any changes made to the OCR feature? I think they worked on OCR improvements to the quality, but the main OCR change was that you can open it directly in Word rather than in the viewer so that you can immediately create a Word document out of it. That was the biggest change that I saw Angelenos a question. Okay, the question was whether jaws will work with Google Slides. It'll read the title of the slides, but not the text on them. No, unfortunately, I haven't done that. There is a webinar that covers or there are different webinars about different topics within jaws that I do know because I was looking at it yesterday. If you go to it, those are http colon slash, https colon slash slash or if you're just you can just type it in probably. f r e. c. d. s so it's Freedom Scientific comm slash webinars. Yeah, Freedom Scientific should at least see if there's one about the slides search colon edits of Midleton webinars on demand so they have webinars on demand which is the pre recorded image of the computer display with the word webinar positioned below the graph or stream our previous webinars right so let me see if I script called Freedom Scientific there are no escape Yeah, the error message lab does graphic to escape club does graphic escaping insert insert F is doing font and Freedom Scientific Freedom Scientific nonslip called a colon virtual fine bleep whoa something is one second virtual find found this graphic to escape screen find results screen fire escape. task switching search for job use Virtual PC cursor off use Virtual PC cursor on webinars on demand dead dash freedoms. Interesting virtual find jaws find that time it worked. Okay, we see Oh, enter and in level two link Google Calendar and jaws and instructional demonstration. So you can jump through here by heading or you can search right for it. So I'm going to hit HS so that's about Google Calendar g mail jobs a web mail instructional demonstration heading level two link Fs skill building and review creates access and edit spreadsheets using Google Sheets and jaws heading level two link, Google Sheets, Google Sheets and jaws heading level two link Fs skill building and review, write edit and collaborate using Google Docs and jaws heading level two link google docs google docs and jaws heading level two link stubaital jaws stay Fs skill building and review surfing with. Okay, let me see if there's any more with Google and f3. Again, heading level two link Google Chrome and jaws wrapped into top heading. Yeah, so they don't have anything on Google Slides. So unfortunately, but there is they really want people to ask them questions if you send email to training at the sparrow.com vispro.com and you can ask them about doing a webinar on Google Slides. Because they need I'm sure they request new topics to discuss So yeah, so sending questions to training at the sparrow, Victor in the Sierra Papa, Echo Romeo, Oscar 1:48pm. Okay, so any other questions? Let's see if there was anything else that was I'll do a quick review. One thing that that confuses people a lot is that there are a lot of different jobs cursors. So I'll do a rundown on that. So when you're editing a document, and you have an insertion point, that's called the PC cursor, and you're limited to wherever you are in like a Word document wherever you're typing. And the PC cursor also handles when you're going through menus. Now a virtual cursor, the Virtual PC will automatically occur when you are in a web document, there's not truly an insert pointer, but you're actually moving around as if there was an insertion point. So it's the virtual cursor. And there is now what used to be called the, the jaws cursor, which, instead of being equivalent to the text insertion point, it's actually the mouse cursor. In some applications when you hit the numpad minus, which is an upper right hand corner of the numeric keypad. Or if you're in desktop mode, it's capslock p, then it'll sometimes it'll say jaws mode, depending on how the program is that you're working within, is oriented. Sometimes jaws can get the information the old fashioned way, in which case, you can use the jaws cursor to move the mouse around. But other times you'll hear scan cursor. And what that means is that jaws couldn't detect any information in the normal way. So it has to use the UI, a user interface accessibility features to get data. And so it'll switch into the jaws curve into the sorry, into the jaws scan cursor. So one example of that is the calculator. Let me bring that up. If I hit the Windows as search box edit in Windows s to search, and then I'll do a command l see calculator app, press Enter calculator, standard calculator mode display is zero. So when you're in the regular mode, open history flyout button memory, you can tab around, but you can't arrow around. So you're basically tabbing between the controls. And from what I've heard, it's not really a logical format. But if you if you hit the the number numpad minus na scan cursor, jaws will activate the scan cursor and then memory yet but you can actually use the arrow keys and it will actually move around based on how the controls are laid out on the screen. So I'm going to hit left arrow. And actually within memories of direct button, memory store button. The memory Add button memory remember memories of drag button, subtract memory store, open memory, okay, so that's interesting, up and down arrow will move between controls, but it's supposed to let you move around by colons in memory flight memory store button, display controls for sent button. Standard functions reciprocal button square displaying that's not exactly acting as they were describing the leader Clear button clear and 3% four cent percent standard functions, square button square root button standard operators do so hitting left and right arrow is now moving me between controls but in certain controls that actually moves between letters in the words which is kind of standard functions where button number pad nine button. Okay, so now I'm in the number pad. And actually, I can move around as if it's an eight button, seven buttons. So I'm moving left and now I'm hitting down four buttons, one button, positive negative button, plus or minus number pad zero button. So you can actually move when you're in the scan cursor, you can kind of move around how it's visually oriented decimal separator button standard operators equals button. plus plus, so I'm just hitting the minus button multiplied by the light by button. And what the scan cursor in the jaws cursor can do that, that the PC and Virtual PC cursors can't do is they can't go outside of the controls that you can tap into the things that are in the tab control. But with the jaws cursor you can and scan cursor. So you should be able to actually get up to the Display area, which you can never get to if you just hover around display controls backs. Standard display controls backspace button 123 displays 123 standard operators divided by Yep, so it didn't read anything before because I didn't have anything in the display but now you can actually appear again like my button, display controls backspace button, clear button clear and three button clear the display nice nice clean The red button. Standard functions were button square standard up. clear, clear and present button. Okay, well, it's, it's typically it's just a new feature that in Windows 10, you'll run into some time. So that was just a little brief rundown. I know when I did the just trainings during a couple months ago, that was something that was often a point of confusion. So anyway, that is a wrap up of this unless there's any last minute questions from the audience, either in person or remote. Okay, well, thank you all and we'll be back yet to for our next segment. So stay tuned. We'll be right back.